A Proper Slow Play At Its Finest....

Discussion in 'The Poker Talk Corner' started by Dmoney644, May 18, 2009.

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  1. Dmoney644

    Dmoney644 Well-Known Member

    Played a headsup game today at Big Bet Poker, and started with pocket 10's.
    Had an amazing flop and checked it down to the river for my opponent to make a strong hand
    of his own. Have a look, it worked beautifully...
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  2. Kondai

    Kondai Active Member

    NH!!! Dmoney.. I think it right to slow play quads .. lol. If he had AA for full house or AK AQ he will come along anyway and it may all-in. But if he didn't .. the only way to make you get the money is let he bluff or caught somethings....

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  3. wolverine30

    wolverine30 Member

    Very Well played. Nice hand. :)
  4. congrats on the taking the hand down with your flopped quads. was trying to figure out what stakes you were playing. i'm guessing it is a sng and not a cash table. well played, keep up the good work.
  5. Ellis

    Ellis Well-Known Member

    Wow Dee well played!:hugs:
  6. Arachnaphid

    Arachnaphid Active Member

    Well played Dmoney, but personally I would have betted small on the flop and turn- you got a bit lucky that your opponent hit a runner-runner straight and walked right into your monster quad tens.


    Most of the times when I am holding the nuts, I bet small to gain information of what type of hand the opponent was holding. If he has a draw for a flush or an open-ended straight, betting small and giving your opponent the pot-odds will build the pot up and give your opponent the chance to hit his hand.

    In this instance the board was not really giving any draws after the flop- I suppose maybe your opponent could have had KQ and gutshot for an ace-high straight with the four jacks in the deck, but that's unlikely- and even he did have KQ check is the correct option.

    Your opponent could also have something like AK and will think he is ahead and trying to slow play his hand which could end up in him not commiting all his chips if danger cards fall on the turn or river (like flushing or straightening cards) i.e a jack on the turn.

    As it turns out, a small bet on the flop would have most likely taken the pot down there and then and it ended up great for you when you got lucky that your opponent made his straight. It depends on the board, players and table dynamics whether to check or bet after the flop, and sometimes checking is the best option (if you are up against a rock) and sometimes betting is the best option (if you are against a loose player). However, I would have definately made a 'weak' bet on the turn to induce a raise if your opponent doubt you have a hand or be called by a draw. If you bet the turn and are called by the drawing hand and the guy misses he isn't going to call the river and at least the turn will give you a little extra cash. If the guy hits his card on the river the money is going to all end up in the middle anyway so betting the turn- what have you got to lose?


    Well Played Dmoney.

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  7. Dmoney644

    Dmoney644 Well-Known Member

    I figured after flopping the nuts, if i bet out anything on the flop, if he did not have an ace, 10, or pocket pair, he more than likely woulda folded. Then if i check and then bet the turn any bet on the turn, this guy would have thought i had an ace or 10, so was hoping for a bluff but was nothing much in the pot to begin with. So i decided to get to the river and hope he picked up at least a pair or some thing and as it turns out, i did get very lucky he hit the runners to make the straight. I think especially after seeing his hand, any bet on the flop he woulda folded, and possible he may have called or raised on the turn, but when holding the nuts, i was waiting for the bluff or him to make a decent hand, and it worked out well.
  8. villarge

    villarge Member

    Lovely hand and very nicely played.

    I have been getting frustrated slowplaying recently. Its good to see that it works sometimes.

    Very nice to see some discussion of when and how slow playing a hand works nicely.

  9. Kondai

    Kondai Active Member

    Yeah slowplay is good sometimes.. It good to slow play when board is really scary and you hold the nuts but not drawy like AAK and you hold AK.. most of the times your opponent will have nothing so the only way you will win the money is let he bluff or caught second nuts.. if he have A it will go-allin later anyway regardless of how you play unless you play really weak for value(fear he will not call).. for your frustrated I think you may slow play marginal hand, such as AA on the flop Q 9 K.. I think this is very marginal hand, even 78 with 978 board I think it not too strong also .. if it just one guy had OESD or over pairs ... their have really high change to out draw you later, even set I think it hard to play at this flop unless the turn bring your full house... the worst part of slowplay marginal hand is not because you opponent out draw you later street but it cause you play big pot and lose big cause u can't fold.. 95% of hand that slow play will call large bet the river but 90% of them (hand that slow play and called the large river bet) usually got suckout (cause if u didn't got suckout with OESD,Flush draw so he will fold when u bet river for value unless he may have top pairs with bad kicker or low over pairs.. or just another aggressive donk but you will onlly win small river bet one).. however most of times the opponent will raise the river big for value when he suckout you and you will paid him off cause -> you can't fold.
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